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Mar 06
2010

Is longevity the sign of a successful church plant?

Posted by Barney Barron in Untagged 

Barney Barron

Recently we faced some challenges that for a moment threatened the feasability of our church meeting.  We got through it okay but it made me question if it had all collapsed would that mean we had failed and the last seven years had been a waste of time? 
The church is or at least should be seen as essentially missional.  God is a missionary God.  The church are a pilgrim people, we are called out and sent back but we are only temporary residents.  We often see church as an institution to which we call people to and see success of a church in terms of how many members it has and its longevity. 

I believe the church is essentially organic, temporal and fluid.  It may be right for a body of believers to come together for a time but they are not necessarily covenanted together until Jesus returns.  That is not to say I don’t want to see existing churches flourish and grow. It is to say that we can’t afford to stay put and expect the world to come and join our club.  The church needs to continually incarnate itself into the world and its different communities and cultures. We need to be prepared to adapt and re:invent ourselves in order to stay fresh.  This may mean allowing a local church to die in order that new life can grow.

Feb 28
2010

Who to work with?

Posted by Peter Dominey in Untagged 

Peter Dominey

been wondering who I should work with...

There's this guy I known.  He's been a Christian for a few years and thaty was a great start, but now but by my yardstick*, err yes I seem to have one for others anyway, he isn't moving along with Jesus.  He wants to draw on my time but not talk about how he's doing in life and faith and some of his patterns.

Some say just work with the willing. If it's not happening it's time for the "shake the dust from your feet" approach and to move on, Luke 9. That would protect my resources (stewardship) and also without the support he would not be less insulated from the consequences of some of his patterns (accountability). Guess it could be called a "tough love" approach.

Others say make yourself available. Be sacrificial and serve without looking for results.  Pour your life out (grace). If you put your personal task/call before community with the other that's a statement against the community (one another stuff).  And after all it took decades of others' graft before I work up to Jesus.

Any thoughts?

Feb 16
2010

Biting the hand that feeds: Do we really need denominational support?

Posted by Barney Barron in Untagged 

Barney Barron

The question as we look to creating new churches will often come down to how will we afford it.  Some like Urban Expression certainly attempt not to make this prohibitive to church planting by recruiting self-supporting ministers and finding creative ways of financing their ventures.

In the two church planting experiences I have had our support and resourcing has been very different.  In the first we had loose connections with a network of churches via an informal relationship with another church.  There was no financial help and very little of any other sort of support.  This meant we all had full time jobs that kept us occupied mainly outside of the local area.  My wife who was a full time mum was the only member of the team who really made any strong relationships outside of the immediate team.  The rest of us failed to get involved in the local community.  This was a major contributing factor for us not succeeding to get anything going there.

My second experience has been very different, I am employed by a mother church and I am accredited as a Baptist Minister.  This has meant we have been supported financially, prayerfully and practically.  It has meant that my children have had somewhere to relate to where they have formed relationships with other children with similar values and beliefs.

If I am honest I struggle with the tension of being part of an institution, in my case the Baptist Union.  Any denomination can at best be slow to respond to a move of the Spirit and at worst totally stifle it.  To varying degrees the organic nature and charismatic disposition of the local church will be affected by its relationship to a denomination.

In having a mother church there have been for us more tensions than our relationship with the wider Baptist Union.  I have to say we have been given a lot of freedom without which I’m not sure we could have made progress in the estate.  However when a group is investing a significant sum of money into a project there is almost inevitably going to be a reminder that they hold the power when decisions you make as a dependent group are overruled.  This has not happened very often but even a few times creates some friction.

On balance I would say there are more pro’s than cons to being part of a bigger organisation.  There are the resources that you can call on, financial and otherwise.  There are necessary checks and balances, for example it is easy for an enthusiastic pioneer to forget important administrative tasks such as an adequate child protection policy, but we have been reminded and helped in forming such policies.  Whilst I recognise it doesn’t always happen, at its best when things don’t work out it is good to have support that helps you reflect on what went wrong in order that everyone can learn and move on positively.

I also think those working on the edge in forming new missional churches have opportunity to share what they have learnt with a wider audience.  I think the tension that often exists between pioneers and the established institution can be creative on both sides, but particularly for the denomination who are pushed to think missionally and not just settle into maintenance mode.  In order to do this we need to resist the pressure to be moulded by the inherited church.  We need to recognise that not only do we have an important message for those outside the church, but also a message for the church itself!

Feb 10
2010

Calling all Church Planters!

Posted by Jon Brown in Untagged 

Jon Brown

If you're planning on planting a church, in the process planting a church or you're already planted we want to hear from you!

We're now giving church planters the opportunity to write a featured blog for Incarnate which will appear on the site and in newsletters. It's not only a great way to keep people up to date with your progress, but it also helps others by explaining the problems you're facing and barriers you reach.

If you'd like to start a blog, get in touch with me at This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it

I look forward to hearing from you!

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